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the great bilby — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:35:31 -0000

i agree
turn abandoned warehouses into indoor farming.

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lzardo — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 22:22:55 -0000

Hmmm, why not just talk about contraception, family planning and birth control? before it´s too late and the whole world is turned into a giant farm, vertical or not?

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Cecilia Elpi — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:21:10 -0000

These designs would make
great spaces for recirculating farms. To learn more about recirculating farms
visit: http://www.recirculatingfar....

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Zezzene — Fri, 01 Apr 2011 00:29:53 -0000

People are going to continue to live in cities, and are definitely going to need lots of food. Having the food production right there in the heart of a dense urban environment cuts transportation costs to almost nothing. Having vegetation reduces the urban heat island effect. Having a large scale structure for these positive purposes does require monstrous sums of money and years of design, engineering, and construction. Why everyone wants to sing kumbaya in a community setting is beyond me, when structures like this would generate thousands of jobs. Realistically, the worlds population is already hungry and population is still rising, major changes like this is apart of the solution.

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Leslie Blue — Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:08:37 -0000

In an effort to deal with potential food and water shortages, many cities are now building vertical farms.* There are tremendous cost advantages of sourcing food locally, and the farms often use genetic modification processes, allowing them to harvest crops faster. That is what scares the heck out of me. Our food is already going to hell this just speeds up the process.

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nesto — Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:21:53 -0000

i think the intent of vertical farming is to have a way to grow fits into the already confined spaces of our cities and making small scale independent operations more viable. The benefit being localization of food production without needing to make massive changes to our infrastructure. The point is it is an adaptive technology not one intended to bring about the need to build a metal mountain to farm on a replica of the hanging gardens. If vertical farming is to have any positive effect it is going to be through small scale operations and localization of agricultural economies, simply turning our current farms upwards isn't going to solve anything.

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Calista — Thu, 17 Mar 2011 16:00:28 -0000

Instead of these expensive buildings, why not apply the vertical concept to abandoned warehouses or other buildings that are an eyesore? The refurbish buildings emphasis should also be on community gardening, and not a corporate enterprise, at least on its entirety!

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Kristian Martinsen — Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:32:22 -0000

If we had a resource based economy, projects like this would not be so dangures, as there will be no money to earn by creating bad, or by poisoning the food/mix it with more water etc etc.

Check it out;
www.thevenusproject.com

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Margarita — Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:10:46 -0000

My response to this is for people to check out Community Supported Energy (this encompasses some rather large renewable energy projects like wind and solar farms) as well as the idea of Community Supported Agriculture.
I know it's revolutionary to think that PEOPLE can actually build things, and not just big companies. *Eyeroll* Try your best. Have some faith in the capabilities of the people who actually make our society function -- the workers, the farmers, the architects. Social movements have never relied exclusively on the rich and powerful corporate executives -- why should the food movement be any different?

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Tony Duncan1029 — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 13:28:40 -0000

im looking forward to a book on this that may already be out, its called the vertical farm

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tec — Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:35:19 -0000

Vertical farms - the name alone sounds cool. I see them as a way to become less centralized and dependent by large industrial farms (all 3 of them). I would imagine hydro and aero ponics would be used extensively with vertical farms and the ability to control outside influence - weather, gmo seeds blowing in the wind, etc would be greatly diminished!

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barturtle — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:49:27 -0000

All these quotes of 2acres/person and .44 acres/person seem to be based on conventional farming. http://urbanhomestead.org/j... manage to support 4 people plus guests and still sell about 20% of production off of 1/10 acre.

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anne — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:53:27 -0000

The company that builds the skyscraper controls the price of food and how it is produced. Despommier designed some nice "eco" and "organic" aspects, which will all be tossed out to bring the price down and utilize non organic methods.
This is custom brainstorming for big agro like Monsanto. The biggest danger to food production is that it is controlled by "they few". A giant vertical farm is a great way to limit the providers of food. Its a giant food bank....
Its a really really bad idea but designers love it because people think its neat when the sketchup paste photo tool. Sorry to be so cynical. I believe many designers and people like Despommier go into solving problems for people with all the best intentions, and thus pave a very smooth and lovely road....

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russel — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 04:12:13 -0000

building a vertical farm may be expensive and its really hard to grasp the notion of the concept. but if one considers the longterm affect of a vertical farm it can outweigh the overall cost of distributing food yearly. US and Canada importing and exporting cost about 478.5 billion dollars in 2006. how much is building a high rise cost around a billion or so. And with sustainable technology leading the weigh it can only bring the price down to maintain it. Those that question if this is sustainable. This can be sustainable by providing low income employment with very low skill level to grow food while conserving natural resources, encourage nutritious food, and become independent self sustained system. this can provide low income workers and can sell food at the same time. thats a big reason why alot of urban agriculture is left out of cities, is because they cant profit from it. but if there programs for the community to develop i think it can work. Questioning the crop yield, i think its being fully bloated measures. farmers determine their crop yield by the amount of seeds. Farmers need to grow three seeds, one to feed, one for himself and one for the animal. This is a number that must be put into the equation. This concept is not far off into the future.

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anushree — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 06:14:27 -0000

I find u right but partially.we r using vertical farming as we dont have much space in urban areas and its also vry benefitial .But the rural areas can go ahead with their traditionol methods.

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Caroline Keddy — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:00:27 -0000

Hi-

Today at Valcent, we are vertically growing foods. Vertical farming is the future of agriculture and food independence. The concept of vertical farms in skyscrappers for urban agriculture is great. Time and money will bring them to our communities. But what about vertical farming in rural communities and developing countries?

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freeplay stout — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:27:40 -0000

As a permaculturalist I have many reservations about vertical farming, but I don't think it's a dead idea. Check out my post at punk rock permaculture E-zine.

www.punkrockpermaculture.wo...

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Blacklight — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:29:28 -0000

I have to say that I disagree with the ocean / sea farm idea, because you're putting floating farms on top of the water cutting off sunlight. I can only see this working well in an area that doesn't have much plankton, because I was on a boat cruise once, and there's these condos that sit over the shore of a lake I live near by, and those kind of condos are banned from being built because they created a kind of underwater desert underneat them, where healthy plankton couldn't grow because there wasn't any sun anymore, and everyone should know that killing plankton, is not a very good idea, considering they're at the base of the food chain for many ecosystems.

though that clip-on prefab idea looks really cool, but not very aesthetic. I think many small vertical farms throughout the city would be best, this way it cuts down on transportation even more, and different plants more suited to growing together can be grown in these seperate places.

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Blacklight — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:06:25 -0000

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Stephen — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:46:40 -0000

I really want to see further progress on this concept because I think this is could be a solution to are rising food shortage…I am involved in a campaign to build the first functioning tower: http://www.thepoint.com/cam...

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Stephen — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:46:00 -0000

I really want to see this project succeed because I think this is could be a solution to are rising food shortage…I am trying to get the first working tower built: http://www.thepoint.com/cam...

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Marcelo — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:09:00 -0000

Thats the future...

Marcelo

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Brianna — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:04:36 -0000

i also dont know if anyone has mentioned the size of the "vertical farms" in one picture its larger than any of the other buildings, it seems like it would cost more and not to mention that it would be quite a beastly building to put in the middle of a city. and what about the amount of pollution in the cities? wont that effect the plants negativly. and haveing to fertalize and pesticide the crops could be harmfull to put in the middle of a city? Its a good i dea i guess i just dont see how it would work

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donkeykong — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:30:25 -0000

I have to question if daekwon park had answered his own question of reuniting isolated city blocks, how well he answered to his own question. I will say no. I still see strong emphasis on vericality, programtically impractical, and structually non-sensical, acutally very dangerous. I will say he has decieving ideas that seems like he had answered his own question of reuniting. He stated that today's urban spaces are very fragmented, limited and unkind to nature, and he wanted to reunite the city blocks, provide green space, and nodes for the city. However, what he had created is even more fragmented, even to the vertical direction. His design has very limited access both in vertically and horizontally. He just added another problems, rather than solving what's currently exists.

I wonder where he came up with this form. But what i see is that he came accross this form randomly, and have randomly placed green ideas. Randomly placing grass does not mean to be green. Also, can you guys imagin all the vibration and noise from the wind turbine ? This will certainly damage it's own structure also the adjacent builinsg attaced by the bridge. Certainly it is not Symbiotic.

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Jim — Mon, 19 May 2008 01:44:11 -0000

I'm not sure I want to eat food grown in NYC. Even if it is grown organically between the water and the air there will be plenty of inorganic things in it.