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Re: Spain Moves Toward First Bullfighting Ban

kyle — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:36:29 -0000

this is sick, wrong whatever way you look at it, i love animals and have an animal protest group called defend our animals and it makes me sick to think people enjoy this animal torture! the people of spain must understand that this is just cruel, disgusting, sickening torture must stop!

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no — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:08:56 -0000

nothing said about people killed in these places because this is a message board about BULLFIGHTING! how do YOU know people are not leaving messages on other appropriate boards about these issues. Issues that i do actually agree with you about! Humans have to realise though that they share this planet with other species and they deserve respect! and if anyone realised where their beef came from and still ate it they aint too smart!!! especially with the factory farms in the US!!!! disgusting

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ugimp — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:54:22 -0000

and heaven forbid a HUMAN should lose their life to an bull! they put themselves in that position so dont expect me to feel sorry for them if they get skewered!! tradition or not.

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Mike — Thu, 06 Jan 2011 20:23:18 -0000

I appreciate the article and pics, I'm copying them and sending an email to my friend to try to convince them to come down to Colombia and watch the bullfights here. It's going to be awesome!! Eat beef.

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Visitor — Thu, 23 Dec 2010 12:18:58 -0000

If they're going to stop this savagery, it's about time! This kind of brutal s*** has no place in our modern world.

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Wilsonwong747 — Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:35:10 -0000

Encourages people to look closely at their lives, their actions and see what the results are in the heart. Suggestions are given about behaviour that might add to one's suffering, but there is no ostracism involved for those that choose to not follow those suggestions. The general proposal is that 'if you live a moral life then your heart will more likely be at peace'. clearly stated that a moral and virtuous life would lead to peace of mind and heart, and ultimately to enlightenment.
It is interesting to see sometimes how violent people can become and having reflected well on the result of those actions ultimately promote suffering.

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Carlie — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 15:15:55 -0000

Um.. For one thing, the reason that people are killed by the bull sis because they are in captivity anyways and being rode and TORTURED by humans. There is no apparent reason for this. This is ridiculous that people in the comments before are sticking up for this. This is inhumane and stupid.

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Alexandria — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:29:59 -0000

Hello. Not to be cruel or anything, this is just a shout out to the people saying 'The bull is defenseless! Wha wha wha!' The bull is not defenseless. Do you know how many matadors get gored by bulls every year? And they can die from it, because it's usually messy and it can very very easily get infected. If you let this raging bull out into the arena and expect the matador to face it mano-a-toro, you're insane. The matador would lose his life every time. Bullfighting is a beautiful, dangerous dance and a part of Spain's national identity, and I think it's wrong that it's been banned -anywhere- in Spain. The silly little vegetarian animal rights activists don't have to watch the sport, but they have no right to ruin it for the rest of us.

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Jyoti — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:22:15 -0000

Beef is your favourite item....don't think anything when you are eating beef...nothing you said when people are killed in Iraq, Afghanisthan or in Lebanon but why you are saying to ban bullfighting....I feel really pity for those who are more worried about animal when human is dying....

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mikeaceshadow — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:23:15 -0000

To the outside world bullfighting reflects on spaniards as uncivilized enjoying cruelty to animals. There is no place for this in a civilized society.

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Jessica — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:42:37 -0000

I am appalled by this horrific monstrosity. I understand that it has a very important culture significance but it is still cruel. It is unfair and unruling. People who don't care about the bull are heartless and don't understand the aspect of life, which is kinda what bullfighting represents.

Imagine the bull being a dog. There are people who don't care much about dogs. Those kind of people would find a dog being brutally murdered entertaining. Also, it is highly unfair. A whole army of people with spears and swords and capes vs a defensless bull.

Imagine yourself as the bull, fighting for your life as you are being ridiculed. I find this event to be horrendous and I am 100% against it.

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Joe Locastro — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:10:54 -0000

I've seen bullfights on television and do not approve of this torture of such a beautiful animal. I always root for the bull....Joe

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david — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:33:08 -0000

I think human rights is an issue that crosses all boundaries. I think animal welfare is an issue of morality rather than ethics and should be decided by the culture of the country in question.

Here in America, we eat meat and wear leather. Saying meat is a necessity is a rationalization. The amount of meat we consume is glutinous and ridiculously unnecessary. If we use animals for our own unnecessary benefit, than it's hypocritical to have a stance that bullfighting is wrong. We can't stand behind a defense of killing with kindness. Either using animals for our benefit is right or it is wrong. If it is wrong, than bullfighting is wrong as is eating meat and wearing leather and even so far as animal experimentation.

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Luis — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:20:21 -0000

I am going to Europe on September for the first time and bullfighting is the reason i will not set a foot or spend a single Euro on Spain, I am sure I am not the only one that thinks these way so next time you think on how much money and employment bullfighting generates also think that you must be loosing money on other parts because of it.

I know that not all spanish people are for bullfighting but when the excuse for keeping these barbaric practice alive is because it is part of your culture and your government condones it then i guess i have to stay away from all your culture.

to those of you that are from Spain and against bullfighting as citizens make your voice be heard you are the ones that can change these.

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Gloria — Fri, 22 May 2009 21:31:10 -0000

The first time I saw a bullfight I was a little girl. It was a terrible thing to watch and my heart ached for the bull. It is very cruel sport. I do hope it is banned, but I understand culture and the strength of it. If nothing else can they do what a person above suggested and use tranquilizers?

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Pro Bulls — Thu, 21 May 2009 18:27:52 -0000

Inhumane and ridiculous.

A waste of resources and promotion of cruelty to animals.

Not to mention how pussified those fighters look in tights. What kind of hard core fighter wears pink?

Obviously, someone is delusional.

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Carrie — Thu, 21 May 2009 12:11:50 -0000

I studied in Spain a few years ago, and it is a bit gut-wrenching to watch a bull fight from an animal rights perspective, and I'm not sure how I personally feel about the practice. I think it would be something Spaniards would solely have to come to a consensus about.

The most significant parts of the event, as I've come to understand it, are two-fold: the grace of the bullfighter and the symbolism of the event. It really can be entrancing to watch an experienced matador; it looks like an intricately choreographed dance with the bull. I was told the entire bull fight is viewed as a metaphor for life and death- for us, as for the bull in the arena, death is inevitable, unavoidable when your time comes.

Sometimes bull fighting can digress into mere spectacle, but I just thought I'd chime in that bull fighting is not merely the killing of an animal for sport. There is a lot of history as well.

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ecobore — Thu, 21 May 2009 04:12:54 -0000

Yes, indeed, a cultural institution, but so once upon a time was bear-baiting, and that is rightly illegal now.

We can't ban it outright, but let's see a fair fight without the picadors. At least the bull has a chance then!!! Or ideally a ban on the injuring and slaughter of the bull altogether and more games in the style of the Course Landaise. Which involve skill, timing and no bloodshed.

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Sam Andrews — Wed, 20 May 2009 20:16:09 -0000

Once again this is an issue of whether older traditions/culture trumps modern ethical views or visa-versa.

While I personally don't like the idea of killing innocent animals for "fun," it is part of the culture & history of Spain. It employs people, provides entertainment for the general public and the meat from the bulls is donated to the less fortunate. In addition, there are thousands of people that are employed and make a livelihood from this tradition.

Although it is inhumane and unnecessary by American standards, at the same time - it is a tradition. It should not die because the rest of the world decides that what they do is wrong. The decision should lie in the hands of the Spanish people and only the Spanish people!

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Anonymous — Wed, 20 May 2009 18:08:37 -0000

History (and even the present) proves that culture is a pretty weak excuse to allow stupid behaviour.

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Jason M. Bryant — Wed, 20 May 2009 18:07:59 -0000

Maybe I'm just a stupid American, but it seems to me like the interesting part of bullfighting is that part I'm most familiar with: tempting the bull to charge and then getting out of the way. Is that actually a significant part of bullfighting? If I went to Spain and saw a bullfight, they could just leave out the parts that hurt the bull and I'd be happy.

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Dallas — Wed, 20 May 2009 18:06:21 -0000

Why not just use tranquilizers instead of spears? Yeah, it's not as good as a ban, but it also doesn't kill the culture as well.